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micro UHF transmitter
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:58 pm
by mildex
I am looking for schematic diagram of micro UHF transmitter(bug), frequency band near 400MHz (quarz controlled) ,range near 500m or more, professional SMD design, small size, battery life 10-20 days. Could someone advice good solution?
mildex
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:00 pm
by pcs
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:37 am
by mildex
I need more professional and more quality bug then listed here, I need Schematic diagram.
mildex
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:45 am
by pcs
You must be kidding. The PRO version is exactly what you're
looking for, gives up to 2km of range with 20 days of battery
life. Its crystal - PLL controlled. And it is UHF.
You are right about one thing, though. Schematic is not available
for this unit.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:55 pm
by mildex
I'd always prefer build unit independently, this allows choose/customize some options, case size, power etc. Why do not make the schematic diagram AVAILABLE for community? This topic calls "User share experience..." Community could discuss its, maybe, even to improve some parameters. There many good specialists among a community.
mildex
pcs wrote:You must be kidding. The PRO version is exactly what you're
looking for, gives up to 2km of range with 20 days of battery
life. Its crystal - PLL controlled. And it is UHF.
You are right about one thing, though. Schematic is not available
for this unit.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:56 pm
by pcs
Did you make your TV set yourself also?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:59 am
by mildex
No, I do not make my TVset myself. This is other thing, its outside of my interests.
pcs wrote:Did you make your TV set yourself also?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:06 am
by pcs
The BUG PRO I is a product of another company of my very close
friend. He does not want to publish a schematic.
BUG PRO I is a pretty unique piece of transmitter and I don't see
a reason why he should give away the schematic. He would be crazy
to do so. Also, it is entirely SMD with some really hard to get parts,
custom ordered Xtals etc. So it is not suitable for a homebuilder as
such. Just making the PCB is very complex at this frequency.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:19 pm
by mildex
Here is description and schematic of good VHF bug
http://hem.passagen.se/communication/buggtx.html
You can use it for free.
pcs wrote:The BUG PRO I is a product of another company of my very close
friend. He does not want to publish a schematic.
BUG PRO I is a pretty unique piece of transmitter and I don't see
a reason why he should give away the schematic. He would be crazy
to do so. Also, it is entirely SMD with some really hard to get parts,
custom ordered Xtals etc. So it is not suitable for a homebuilder as
such. Just making the PCB is very complex at this frequency.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:04 pm
by pcs
Hi!
Thanks for the schematic, I'll add it to our schematic section.
I have a few suggestions:
1.) Only one AF stage should be enough for this
2.) The problem with this setup is that it can't produce wideband FM,
usable at the RM radio band (75KHz swing).
3.) The second problem is that to produce UHF signal with this method
you require a large number of multiplying stages which will need to be
aligned (tuned). Alignment can be very touchy mechanically and a fall
on the floor can de-tune the trimmers. It is not a very practical approach,
but it does work.
4.) Another problem with a large number of amplifier stages is that
a intermediate signal can feed through to the output stage. This makes
the usual filtering with LPF unpossible (since signal is under the carrier
in frequency).
Other than that, it can be made to work for NBFM applications nicely.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:52 am
by pcs
Otherwise, your website is really cool. Feel free to contact me with any ideas or questions at any time (use email). We might even find a way to colaborate in some way some day.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:47 pm
by mildex
Hi,
This VHF transmitter author, as well as mentioned website owner is Daniel Norman. I just showed his transmitter as an example.
mildex
pcs wrote:Otherwise, your website is really cool. Feel free to contact me with any ideas or questions at any time (use email). We might even find a way to colaborate in some way some day.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 7:33 pm
by pcs
Ah, it is not you? It sounded as if it was you from your post.
Never mind.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:33 pm
by mildex
Hi,
could you accomplish this your suggestions into improved schematic of this transmitter(for 400MHz) and make it available?
mildex
pcs wrote:Hi!
Thanks for the schematic, I'll add it to our schematic section.
I have a few suggestions:
1.) Only one AF stage should be enough for this
2.) The problem with this setup is that it can't produce wideband FM,
usable at the RM radio band (75KHz swing).
3.) The second problem is that to produce UHF signal with this method
you require a large number of multiplying stages which will need to be
aligned (tuned). Alignment can be very touchy mechanically and a fall
on the floor can de-tune the trimmers. It is not a very practical approach,
but it does work.
4.) Another problem with a large number of amplifier stages is that
a intermediate signal can feed through to the output stage. This makes
the usual filtering with LPF unpossible (since signal is under the carrier
in frequency).
Other than that, it can be made to work for NBFM applications nicely.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:47 pm
by pcs
Unfortunately I do not have time right now, perhaps some day.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:37 pm
by evil_genius
What would i have to change on the transmitter at
http://hem.passagen.se/communication/buggtx.html
to transmit at the 2.4 ghz range.
my goal is to make a bug i can use about 50 +\- meters
