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Stereoencoder

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:11 am
by djhubbalubba
Hello

I have plans and buy a stereo encoder to my Max Pro 3.(Tired of mono sound now :lol: )
Today, I have a cable between the studio and the transmitter, it's at about 90meter long with RCA plug in the end. I don't have much noise and any another interference, only a bad soundcard.

Will it work fine with a stereoencoder then? (it is boring and buy something that will not work so well)

Maybe it's hard to answer?

I have put a file with this post with a record from my station, so you can hear.

The file --> http://www.dump.no/files/6da61af97242/Untitled3.mp3

And another question:
Today my setup is like this:
Computer -> Mixer -> Limbo 1 -> Back to mixer (amplifies the sound) -> To transmitter

When I set the Limbo with the transmitter, the sound is wery low. Remains: The cable is about 90meters long.( I got to much loss) But when I do it like this: Computer -> Mixer -> Limbo 1 -> Back to mixer (amplifies the sound) -> To transmitter, it works good.

If I buy a stereoencoder, Do I have an extra amplifier? Or have the stereoencoder higher volume than the RCA plug on the transmitter?

https://www.pcs-electronics.com/product ... -encoders/

Long post :roll:
Hope someone can help :)

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:25 pm
by pcs
I recommend that you get the new SE3000 stereo encoder.

https://www.pcs-electronics.com/product ... -encoders/

Why?

- It has balanced inputs, this way the noise from long cable is mostly eliminated
- It has the compressor part taken from Limbo I (that you seem to like and you should, it is nice)
- Its output volume is high and you will not need the amplifier anymore
- Its got very sharp analog filters, very good stereo separation
- Upgrade path to RDS assured, just plug in RDS daughter board (4000 mini)

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:20 pm
by djhubbalubba
Okei :)
A few more questions:

Can I still use the RCA plugs?

Do I need the Limbo 1 in the studio more?

Is it easy to connect the transmitter? Do I need soldering? ( I hate that :P )

I think about it. It's sound very nice.

Marko: Please check your mail :)

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:37 pm
by pcs
1. Yes :)

2. You don't need limbo anymore

3. Everything is with connectors

4. Yep, its pretty good indeed :)

M

Stereo Coder

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:59 pm
by klaas kramer
And SE3000 is an older version but much cheaper.
And SE5000 DSP+ is the newest version with a lot upgrades.

https://www.pcs-electronics.com/shop/st ... -vu-meter/


(if you didn't know)

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:59 pm
by djhubbalubba
Okei,
But if I put the limbo with the transmitter the sound is very low.
Have the SE 3000 higher input level?

And:
What cable used to connect and transmitter and stereoencoder together?

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:46 pm
by pcs
You did not read above? :)
- Its output volume is high and you will not need the amplifier anymore

The connector for output is RCA /Cinch.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:04 pm
by djhubbalubba
Input level =)
Not output :D

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:39 pm
by pcs
Important is output level here, it will be ok.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:44 pm
by djhubbalubba
Ok, then will I trust you :)
Did you read my mail?

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:01 pm
by pcs
Yes, the answer is in the mail.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:42 am
by djhubbalubba
Have this better sound than Limbo 1 compressor?
I want crisp and good sound :D

And can I get the sound just as high as a commercial station?

Is the cable to connect the st.encoder and transmitter included?

Do you have this available in stock now?

Apologize if I nag, but I want to be sure before I buy :)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:21 pm
by pcs
Yep, the sound is good, but to sound like a commercial station I recommend
something like SAM (software).

Cable is not included, but you can get that in every electronics or PC or radio
shop.

SE3000 AN+ is set to enter smd placement this week meaning they would be
shipping around next monday.

SE5000 dsp+ is in stock for immediate shipment, though.

RDSMAX 4000 daughter boards are in stock as well.

SAM broadcasting software is in stock.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:11 pm
by djhubbalubba
I use SAM alredy :)

Is it standard RCA cable like we use to transmitter?

I think you have an order from me next week once :wink:

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:27 pm
by pcs
Yes, standard rca cable. Do you still have rca on your max pro fm exciter?
If yes, its a no-solder job :)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:34 pm
by djhubbalubba
I have not changed anything ;)

But i don't understand how a one cable with one RCA plug can give real stereo signal :oops:

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:27 pm
by pcs
Its called MPX. Imagine, it only occupies one "radio channel", not two,
when you transmit in stereo.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:02 pm
by djhubbalubba
Okei, then I understand a little bit more.

Can this Stereoencoder be placed in the studio, or must it be placed close to transmitter?

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:09 pm
by pcs
Usually close to transmitter

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:32 pm
by djhubbalubba
Okei.